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作者: imagine1221 時間: 2011-3-6 10:18 標題: 政府財富再分配，地主愈分愈富貴！

政府財富再分配，地主愈分愈富貴！
政府由三年前免差餉開始，就對擁有大量物業的財主(下稱：地主）派金錢！在過去的四年，物業大幅升值，租金飛升，大地主們大發其財。但物業轉讓所得，大都不用納稅，地主們只須對租金所得納稅吧。

政府最基本的責任是財富再分配。但雙PKHKC曾的政府卻把市民的財富分配給地主們。

只有一個物業的中產們，試想一想，如果你個人的工資年收入有72萬，薪俸稅就交唔少，在今次的預算案，你最多就可以得到，6000退稅，6000現金，6000差餉，1800電費。19800，happy?

另一個小地主擁有7個物業（6個出租，1個自住），每個物業的年租金收入12萬(多是包差管)，佢都有年收入72萬，佢交物業稅好，交個人入息課稅也好，一定比賺72萬的中產打工仔交直接息少（因有約為租金收入20%的費用支出可供減免，選個人入息課稅的話，利息支出又可供減免）。但佢在今次的預算案就收到6000x7差餉，6000現金，1800電費，即49800！！如果佢選擇個人入息課稅，佢重收多6000！即有54800！！

如果你只系一個年收入得12萬的打工仔而只系租小地主o個層樓住，你只會收到6000現金，1800電費, TOTAL 得7800。小地主掉空5個單位，淨系租一個比你，佢重要收多d，有58800呢 !

再pk d,佢o個6個物業系用o黎炒，無租出去，佢無交直接稅，佢重要收多d，有60600呢？！

計錯?！錯你個頭！6000x7免差餉，1800x7電費減免，加6000現金！！電費用唔完，賣樓，下家比反cash佢！

我地打工養政府，政府養狗官，狗官肥地主！！！乜Q道理！！！

上面我只是用初階地主作例，pkhkc曾俊華都有病到爆！！再想想，大地主們這幾年加租加到百物脹價，小市民就生活愈見艱難！大地主們如長實，和黃，恆基，太古，九倉，…和其他地主，物業炒家們都收錢收到笑！

要知道，地主只是少數人，但郤得到政府的大比例的退錢！他們對社會又有什麼貢獻，收到甘多呢！

為什麼對低下層的交津要按家庭去比，免差餉又唔按個人，按公司，按集團去免呢？而按物業免呢？

這個政府明顯就是同擁有大量物業的人勾結！！！財富再分配變成地主分多多！！！

我好L慶，因為太離譜！你地又慶唔慶呀？

作者: DrHorse 時間: 2011-3-6 12:26

這是轉貼嗎 ?

作者: imagine1221 時間: 2011-3-6 14:09

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原帖由 DrHorse 於 2011-3-6 12:26 發表
這是轉貼嗎 ?

No ar, wrote by myself.

作者: DrHorse 時間: 2011-3-6 18:29

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原帖由 imagine1221 於 2011-3-6 14:09 發表

No ar, wrote by myself.

Noted. 很有感受.

作者: airbus380 時間: 2011-3-6 18:31

樓主你是會計師?

作者: imagine1221 時間: 2011-3-7 00:28

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原帖由 airbus380 於 2011-3-6 18:31 發表
樓主你是會計師?

yes, but i dont like this profession

作者: DrHorse 時間: 2011-3-7 01:44

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原帖由 imagine1221 於 2011-3-7 00:28 發表

yes, but i dont like this profession

你鮮有咁勞氣啊 ...

作者: imagine1221 時間: 2011-3-7 02:00

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原帖由 DrHorse 於 2011-3-7 01:44 發表

你鮮有咁勞氣啊 ...

haha, when talking about the HK politics, i am always on fire, as the more you think the more you feel bad for the political environment in Hong Kong. by the way, when i studied accountancy in year one, i found it is one of the most incorrect decision i made n my life, although i worked pretty ok in this profession, i really dont like this profession. haha, or i dont like any profession ... because nearly all professions are speaking for his own personal interests only, and i didnt see any one who make use of his or her professional knowledge to make the society better... feel shamn..

[ 本帖最後由 imagine1221 於 2011-3-7 02:01 編輯 ]

作者: DrHorse 時間: 2011-3-7 02:23

其實我都覺得 ... 教人賭馬都好似對社會無乜貢獻咁 ...

作者: DrHorse 時間: 2011-3-7 10:41

DrWife 今朝回應左我呢個問題 : 唔係丫, 你係度 "幫打工仔增加收入", "改善民生", "刺激經濟" 嘛 !!!

作者: imagine1221 時間: 2011-3-7 12:48

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原帖由 DrHorse 於 2011-3-7 02:23 發表
其實我都覺得 ... 教人賭馬都好似對社會無乜貢獻咁 ...

Definitely, no la. you taught us how to gamble in a calculated way. it is very useful le.... haha

作者: imagine1221 時間: 2011-3-7 12:49

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原帖由 DrHorse 於 2011-3-7 10:41 發表
DrWife 今朝回應左我呢個問題 : 唔係丫, 你係度 "幫打工仔增加收入", "改善民生", "刺激經濟" 嘛 !!!

, She is right!!!!!

作者: SudokuTA 時間: 2011-3-7 14:48

你咪做緊財爺個份：財富再分配囉。
但同財爺唔同；財爺俾魚我食(重要多左舊)，Dr就教我地捉魚。

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作者: SudokuTA 時間: 2011-3-7 14:50

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作者: SudokuTA 時間: 2011-3-7 14:52

你咪做緊財爺個份：財富再分配囉。
但同財爺唔同；財爺俾魚我食(重要多左舊)，你就教我地捉魚。

如夠能夠學識一技防身，我地的小馬迷就可以分享幕後的利潤。
能夠成功的話，就更加可以脫貧。

呢個世界上，最容易就係錢搵錢，其次係用腦搵錢，到最尾先係用勞力搵錢。
因為勞力最多[係人都有]，肯用腦(及識用腦)少的[唔係個個都咁懵嘜]，有錢就最少[唔係個個老豆都剩落大把]。

但一講到錢，的無錢口既人，就好大反應。
因為你懂得搵錢，就自不然會較不懂的人搵得多。
你有錢，自然又會比佢地洗多的錢。
係咪好令人反感呢。

但無錢口既人，衹會埋怨，而唔會去改善。
因為個的唔埋怨，肯改善的人，慢慢都變成有錢人。

祝各位早日做個有錢人！

作者: 若愚 時間: 2011-3-7 17:57

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原帖由 SudokuTA 於 2011-3-7 14:52 發表
你咪做緊財爺個份：財富再分配囉。
但同財爺唔同；財爺俾魚我食(重要多左舊)，你就教我地捉魚。

如夠能夠學識一技防身，我地的小馬迷就可以分享幕後的利潤。
能夠成功的話，就更加可以脫貧。

呢個世界上，最 ...

有腦食腦，冇腦食力，連力都冇就註定屎都冇得食......

作者: airbus380 時間: 2011-3-7 19:38

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原帖由 imagine1221 於 2011-3-7 00:28 發表

yes, but i dont like this profession

會計好唔好做, 我有諗過呢行, 我知道都辛苦, 但待遇都唔太差卦

作者: imagine1221 時間: 2011-3-8 02:27

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原帖由 airbus380 於 2011-3-7 19:38 發表

會計好唔好做, 我有諗過呢行, 我知道都辛苦, 但待遇都唔太差卦

(1) remuneration - if you got a Big 4 offer and stick in these 4 firms, remuneration package is not bad since 2004.  therefore, ppl may have illustion that remuneration is not bad for the accounting profession.  However, right after 1997, DDT layed off a whole team of audit staff, over 100 ppls.  One of my friend graduated in 1998/1999, his first offer from a local accounting firm is 5000/per month.  In 2002, like KMPG, staff are suffered a pay cut ~10%.  In 2008, Firms requested you to take 10% no-pay annual leave, but your immediate head may request you to finish the works during the no-pay leave period.

However, for the first several years, if you travel a lot in the PRC, you may save a lot coz of the hardship allowance and may have some OT pay, if your immediate head or partner does not give u hints to "eat hours".

(2) comparing accounting with other traditional profession, like solicitors, doctors, surveyors, i dont think the accounting professionals of the same IQ and EQ levels got a fair pay at all.  Several years ago, i complained a MO in hospital, he cried eventually and said that he worked very hard, worked from 8 to 8, 6 days a week.  I told him that it is peanut in accounting professions, one of my friend working in tax department worked from 830 to late night and got no holiday in sat and sun in the busy season and waive the unused annual leave for several years (i.e., got no pay for the unused annual leaves).  Eventually he got promotion to partner, but just salaried partner, worth or not?  if you are specialties in medical field, you can be your own boss and earn a great pay, but as a accounting professional, even you are a talented one, you could not set up your own firm to grap the big business, coz you need a team and a business network.  Therefore, accounting is not the career for the accounting students, most ppls may enter into banking and commercial fields.

(3) surely lots of ppls wish to be ibanker, but not all accounting ppls suit.  If you have a good social network, just enter into this field, right after graduation,  Otherwise, i would suggest you to consider legal profession, surely making sure that you have a good language skills, coz it is a must for u to be a top tier legal professionals.  In additions, it is relatively easier for you to get an accounting qualification even after you graduated from law school, but it is not the same for accounting graduates.  Finally, if you got offers from the international law firms, like B&M, it is much better than the one u get from Big 4.

Last word, i am bias as i dont like this profession, so take my words with care.

作者: DrHorse 時間: 2011-3-8 02:37

做 o個行厭 o個行.

作者: imagine1221 時間: 2011-3-8 02:47

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原帖由 DrHorse 於 2011-3-8 02:37 發表
做 o個行厭 o個行.

haha, maybe, but i hate this profession when i was a year-one student and not yet 做 o個行. In fact, i worked in tax profession right after the graduation, hehe not exactly o個行, although eventually be a commercial accounting guy

But coz see a lot and talking with friends and ppls in other professions, so i dont think accounting professionals were paid reasonably comparing with other professions in Hong Kong. One more example, say in US, if you were promoted to partner, you are "Equity Partner", there is not salaried partner in US at all. However, in HK, you have good bosses, there give u an illusion, telling u that ur career path are the same with the rest of the world, but.... Another example, you may be asked not to take study leave in HK, even in Big 4. But in UK, your professional society back you up and all the Big 4 give u 3 month pay leave and a full time study course for taking the professional exam (imagine if your first year work was in UK, you only need to work about 3 to 5 months and can earn a whole year salary).

Accounting is not a good profession, coz here is HK, but if in UK or US, i think it is not bad at all.

作者: DrHorse 時間: 2011-3-8 03:01

很多行業, 福利也是外資公司較為優勝 (日資除外). My first job after grad., 就是在一間英法合資公司工作, 福利好, 人工更是全級同學之中最高.

作者: imagine1221 時間: 2011-3-8 03:16

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原帖由 DrHorse 於 2011-3-8 03:01 發表
很多行業, 福利也是外資公司較為優勝 (日資除外). My first job after grad., 就是在一間英法合資公司工作, 福利好, 人工更是全級同學之中最高.

it is true. However, say KPMG, DDT, PWC, EY, they are international firms, and all these Big 4 claimed that they are ONE FIRM (i.e,, firm in HK are same as firm in the China, and the rest of the world). They encourage secondments all over the world. However, in the foreign countries, like US and UK, the accounting society will treat members fair and fight for the members' benefits, like fight for less working hours, more study leave and publish professional journals (and make good suggestions to the government). However, HKSA did nothing for the members, even the content of the journal published are not up to professional standard, i think.

作者: DrHorse 時間: 2011-3-8 03:33

無可否認, 香港政府比較鵪鶉, 但亦有或多或少受中國人傳統性格影響 - 多一事不如小一事, 只求安穩度日; 事不關己, 己不勞心 o個類.

始終, 香港算係乜野. d 有錢佬商團商家駛乜睇你面色, 一個唔該隨時都可以搬哂 d business 呀, center 呀咁返大陸, 又唔投資係香港, 又唔投你 d 地發展, 吹咩 ... 咁你香港就 game over la.

作者: imagine1221 時間: 2012-2-29 23:46

今年終于有立會議員問政府,單一公司收回政府退差餉是九千多萬!!!!

單一公司收回政府退差餉是九千多萬!!!!單一公司收回政府退差餉是九千多萬!!!!單一公司收回政府退差餉是九千多萬!!!!

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